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 Posted: Mar 26, 2009 - 12:50 AM
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#2 would be fantastic. The more strategic (and math competent) could setup certain people to fail or succeed during their slot. It's a crazy concept that requires good recovery and tactical choices, but can still be won with skill and forethought.
#1 is awesome for all types of games really.
You have to beware of #3 in certain games though. Many of the Age-styled series require you to build an offensive unit to get to the next level. |
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Posted: Mar 26, 2009 - 08:30 AM
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| what no one likes crazy rules? Can't come up with some of your own? |
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katona wrote:
kurtmax_0 wrote:
I really enjoyed when we were playing 'different' games.
So, by 'different', you mean the games you play all the time already anyway?
Not really. I only played DoW alot. I played CoH extensively for maybe 2-3 weeks. HL2DM I play about once every year for a few hours... |
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Posted: Mar 27, 2009 - 12:26 AM
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| Those crazy rules make me want to slice my duck |
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Posted: Mar 27, 2009 - 08:09 AM
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| The point is, recognizing we can't run an actual competative tournament that even matters on any level. So we might as well have a tournament for fun and bragging rights. In that case the real value isn't so much playing as it is the great stories it generates. It makes the lan unique and fun via means you can't replicate over a high speed network. |
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Posted: Mar 28, 2009 - 04:41 AM
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Bandit wrote:
The point is, recognizing we can't run an actual competative tournament that even matters on any level. So we might as well have a tournament for fun and bragging rights. In that case the real value isn't so much playing as it is the great stories it generates. It makes the lan unique and fun via means you can't replicate over a high speed network.
You have the wrong attitude about this.
There is a true satisfaction in a competition (winning AND in losing), no matter how small or "irrelevant" the LAN is. You can't replicate being there with people and LANing a game of Starcraft or playing a game like Street Fighter over a network. You're meeting new people, learning new tricks and strategies by example and also by explanation. When you lose you get to ask questions from a player better than you on what to improve and also get to have the experience of helping other players improve. You can talk trash too (though in a polite manner I would hope).
It's the being there with other people who have similar interests that counts and if you're only getting out of it what you'd get out of playing people online then you're missing out.
If you need to pour this pointless gimmicks onto a competitive game to make it interesting to you... I can't imagine what you get out of gaming at all. Whenever I sit down at a game that has good gameplay and I have to out-think, out-react, out-smart, and have better mechanics than, there's a certain beauty to it. I don't know why you would want to corrupt this experience even if the large majority of people present will be bad at the game in question and few people will attend.
If you don't try it will never happen.
plus I don't want people I don't know that well touching my mouse they might have AIDS what the heck. |
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Posted: Mar 28, 2009 - 11:40 AM
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OMG. Are you seriously sitting there trying to explain to ME why lans are good? Pardon me sir, I'm a founding member of the gamers club, which was an extension of our lan parties. I ran D-LAN in Dothan for 2 years. I've hosted more lans than most people have been to, and I continue to look for ways to save the lan party.
The sad fact is socialization doesn't happen when you do a tournament, what happens is clicks. People play their one game and refuse to try another. I spend my entire time at lan parties trying to get other people to play new games, and trying new games myself. That used to be the goal of the gamer's club, broadening each gamer's interests, and showing everyone gaming wasn't about sitting in your basement being anti-social.
If you want everyone to play, and everyone to have a good time, then you come up with fun ways to level the field, you make driving backwards on a racing game OK for the worst player. And subsequently, you have them stay around, and find a game they are good at.
Call it a gimmicks if you want, but Xero, myself and many other founding members fondest recollections of the gamers club/lan parties were the insane matches with crazy rules. Strong players still win, and weak players have fun. The latter is the only real difference, and truly all that matters if you want to grow the group. |
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jokeyxero |
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Posted: Mar 31, 2009 - 05:09 PM
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I've been a part of serious competitions, both in club and out for many years and in activities other than gaming. I have to agree with Bandit on this one.
Competitions do not breed socializing except among the top deviation. The rest of the people feel like they were blown away and didn't have fun. Only very competitive people are happy with being destroyed, they (we) use it a way to better ourselves for next time. A few others just value the experience for itself. However, most people are not like that. They thought it would be fun and they might have a chance. When they find out that they didn't then they give up to go after something more "natural" to them.
We want those losers (j/k) to come have fun. We have not been offering some crazy promotional prize for an expert in one game. We have been trying to get people out to enjoy gaming and maybe get some bragging rights around their friends and the community, a prize is a pat on the back from us. At least that's the way it was when I was running it, the current administration may have different goals, and if they do, then more power to them.
While I don't agree with your assessment, I am glad you cared enough to make one. Maybe you need to get on staff for the next one! They can always use more people to help out, especially self-motivated ones that want to see the event grow. |
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