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Post subject: Hard Drives
 Posted: Nov 13, 2005 - 06:24 AM
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Sniper on the Hill
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| I'm thinkin' about buying a new hard drive, and I was just wondering if I needed to buy a certain type of hard drive for my computer, like types of memory. |
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Post subject: RE: Hard Drives
Posted: Nov 13, 2005 - 06:51 AM
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G0dlike
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| Just learn the difference between SATA and IDE. Other than that buy whatever. It is all rather subjective. |
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Post subject: RE: Hard Drives
Posted: Nov 13, 2005 - 07:08 PM
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teh gam0r!!1~
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| The brands I've had the best luck with are Seagate and IBM. I've had quite a few Maxtor and Western Digital drives fail, but then again, I own far more of them...so the law of averages no doubt took effect. I'd look for a high amount of cache (8mb or more), and a minimum of 7200rpm (unless it's a laptop drive). Nowadays, if you have the motherboard for it, I'd go for a SATA drive. |
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Post subject: RE: Hard Drives
Posted: Nov 13, 2005 - 10:05 PM
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| T speaks the truth. |
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Post subject: RE: Hard Drives
Posted: Nov 14, 2005 - 04:24 AM
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| Ive never had luck with Seagates, always dying on me. Then again most recently Ive had 3 Western Digitals and a Samsung die on me in the span of a week... |
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Post subject: RE: Hard Drives
Posted: Nov 14, 2005 - 01:42 PM
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Color-Swapped Ninja
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ah yes the dreaded seagate drives, although i still use one.  for my cigarbox computer though. i use WD other than that. |
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Post subject: RE: Hard Drives
Posted: Nov 14, 2005 - 05:53 PM
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G0dlike
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| Segate does offer a 5 year warranty. |
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Post subject: Right, right.
Posted: Nov 15, 2005 - 01:34 AM
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Sniper on the Hill
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| What about data on the old hard drive, and Windows? Can that somehow be transferred? |
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Post subject: RE: Right, right.
Posted: Nov 15, 2005 - 04:28 AM
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G0dlike
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um yes.
Do you know anything about building a PC or how they work? I'm serious I'm not trying to be mean or anything. But that last question just set off alarm bells in my head that are screaming don't let this guy just go out and buy whatever. The next step is to advise you in person or find someone I trust to handel it.
So 1. Do you need some help?
2. Any volunteers? |
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Post subject: RE: Right, right.
Posted: Nov 15, 2005 - 06:12 AM
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No, not helping - I'll give guidance, but actual on-site assistance is gonna cost.
As far as brands, I stayed away from Maxtor and seagate since the introduction of the 7200rpm drives - always used Western Digital and they've never let me down - however, I've had a maxtor (friend of mine offered the 160gb 7200rpm 8mb drive for 30 bucks, said he didn't need it) for about two years now and it's rock solid, so I guess maxtor's QC has picked up.
SATA > EIDE (but only if your mobo supports SATA) - I recommend western digital, and suggest caution in maxtor |
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Post subject: Dee dee dee...
Posted: Nov 15, 2005 - 06:14 AM
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| That's fine, I got a friend that showed me newegg.com, where I can buy one, as for installation I think he can help with that also. I think I was told to get one with IDE cables instead of one with ATA, I'm not even sure if what I just said made sense. I'll just have to wait till the zero hour of purchase to consult with him though. |
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Post subject: RE: Dee dee dee...
Posted: Nov 15, 2005 - 08:52 AM
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teh gam0r!!1~
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vandyl proves the old adage of "Your mileage may vary" - nearly every Western Digital drive I've ever owned has failed on me...and I've owned quite a few.  I guess unless a model has a universally proven bad record (such as a certain model of IBM drives several years back), just buy for performance and cross your fingers. ...and no matter how good the reputation of your drives is - frequently back up your critical data. |
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Post subject: RE: Dee dee dee...
Posted: Nov 15, 2005 - 01:10 PM
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No ATA is not the magic word you are looking for. IDE is. The 2 magic words that are in your case the opposite of each other is SATA and IDE. SATA is a small (1cm) cable with very flat connectors with no visiable pins on the end. IDE is a ton of pins with a very wide flat cable (inches).
If you comptuer has IDE.
1. It most likely has 2 large flat cables. These cables can support 2 IDE devices each. One is the Master and one the Slave. (CA banned this terminology)
2. The Master Slave relationship is controled by who is on the end of the line(the master) and the jumper on the back of the drive. A jumper is a small rectangle connector that connects 2 pins. Usually an array of 6 pins of which only 2 are connected. The Drive should have on the top a sticker that explains Master and Slave positions with a picture.
If your old hard drive isn't completely dead you can save your data and even save not having to re-install. You have to hook up a CD drive, the old hard drive, and the new hard drive to the IDE cables in your computer. Either find a linux guru to copy your image over for you or go get Norton Ghost. Boot up with Norton Ghost as the boot disk and follow the directions. MAKE SURE you know which IDE cable is going to wich hard drive. Norton only knows your drives by their posisition on the IDE chain. The IDE number will be on the motherboard where the cables connect to it. Simply copy one image to the other drive. Then for simplicity sake put everything back the way it was without the old hard drive and boot up. Everything should work like it did.
The next step is wiping the old drive but I won't explain this untill you have performed the above operation to completetion for your own safety. |
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Posted: Nov 15, 2005 - 01:18 PM
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| technically IDE is Ultra ATA 100 |
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Post subject: RE: Dee dee dee...
Posted: Nov 15, 2005 - 01:28 PM
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| No wrong. IDE is a cable format. Ultra ATA 100 is a protocol on the cable but lets not confuse the guy with details. |
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Post subject: RE: Dee dee dee...
Posted: Nov 15, 2005 - 03:52 PM
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| ATA 33, ATA 66, ATA100, ATA133 - all they are is maximum transfer speed ratings. I *think* (and I haven't kept up with this for about 2 years now) that IDE drives normally stop at ATA 133, whereas SATA drives begin at ATA150. |
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Post subject: RE: Dee dee dee...
Posted: Nov 15, 2005 - 04:33 PM
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Post subject: Re: RE: Dee dee dee...
Posted: Nov 19, 2005 - 12:37 AM
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Bandit wrote:
No wrong. IDE is a cable format. Ultra ATA 100 is a protocol on the cable but lets not confuse the guy with details.
Thank you bandit. ^_^
As far as the speeds that T-Bird talked about, it's good to note that most IDE drives max out at UATA100 speeds, even the uata133 drives - that max speed is only burst, not sustained. Trust me, I've run the benchmarks.
But all that is some techbabble designed to confuse you - in short, buy a drive of a brand that we've mentioned and you should be just fine. Stay away from nonames and generic. If in doubt, friggin ask us. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Dee dee dee...
Posted: Nov 21, 2005 - 09:03 PM
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Post subject: The Battle Continues...
Posted: Nov 28, 2005 - 10:46 PM
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| I'm using a HP Pavilion 6745c, if that helps any. So I'm supposed to look for a certain type of port on the back, eh? |
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