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kurtmax_0 wrote:
Um... are there PC gamers who have not heard of TFC?!!!
not seasoned vets like everyone here apparently. how old is TFC? think of younger people that have never been to a tournament, a lan, or anything of that nature that just go to EB when some commercial for a new game comes out. alot of people like that will play HL2, BF2, CoD2. remember incoming freshman/sophomores being between the ages of 17 -19. they probably haven't been playing PC FPS's for a long time. |
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WTF? I was playing PC games since I was two and a half.... TFC isn't *that* old. I could understand in three or four more years the whippersnappers might not have heard of it.
But by then there should be video game history classes in schools so they will have NO excuse... |
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kurtmax_0 wrote:
WTF? I was playing PC games since I was two and a half.... TFC isn't *that* old. I could understand in three or four more years the whippersnappers might not have heard of it.
But by then there should be video game history classes in schools so they will have NO excuse...
april of 1999 was a while ago especially for younger people. |
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I'm not trying to dis TigerLan, I think it's great, and I know it's mostly for computer games, with some console stuff thrown in. I just know of alot of Halo players around Auburn, and it was good MLG-type practice for me last year, (before they cancelled MLG Atlanta on me).
I guess I was just mad because there are never any good Halo 2 Lan's around here, and I saw last semester's Halo 2 part of TL as maybe getting some of these guys off MLGPro to come.
And BTW, I found out TigerLan on MLGPro.com, because last year I went to Alabama not Auburn. |
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trsruiner wrote:
april of 1999 was a while ago especially for younger people.
Let's not forget that even the modern day 'younger people,' if they really are FPS fans, are following Fortress Forever and Team Fortress 2.
Also, are there any 'new' Xbox games? (not 360 mind you; just Xbox.) So, yes, I mean expose people to games they haven't played before... in other words, games that are NEW to them. |
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Phoenix2005 wrote:
I guess I was just mad because there are never any good Halo 2 Lan's around here, and I saw last semester's Halo 2 part of TL as maybe getting some of these guys off MLGPro to come.
You know you don't actually have to wait for someone else to throw a LAN party. We always encourage others to have their own LANs. |
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trsruiner wrote:
I believe CoD or CS, or something along those lines would draw a larger crowd, and then you can introduce them to other games that they may enjoy.
There's a saying among us old people that goes something like, "You can lead a gamer to DOOM3 but you can't make him play."
In an enviroment such as TigerLAN, tons of people strolling about and a tourney every couple minutes, it's hard to get that massive horde of single-game gamers to look at anything new or different. They mainly waltz in, play their one tourney and leave or stand around the play zone where they are most comfortable.
Getting these gamers involved in something new to them is difficult if not impossible at times. They have their one trick and they don't want to leave their comfort zone.
If one caters to their wants, nothing is accomplished except for having a huge crowd.
But then all this is a moot point anyway. xero and others pimp the website every chance they get. Especially at club meetings with new people, TigerLAN and via flyers. If people cared, they'd have voted. Remind yer buddies next time. It's not like we charge to join the forums.
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BURN TEH INFIDELS!!!!
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heheh your crowning jewel of the day was still:
kurtmax_0 wrote:
... wait. There are gamers who haven't heard of TFC???
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Yeah, there'll be people not coming because there's no Halo 2. But we are attempting to expose people to _good_ games. And let's face it, Halo 2's a party game, not a tournament game.
The attendance drop will be because the attendees would've been morons who don't know shit about games, and thus we are appeased.
I play Halo 2 alot. I would love to see it played. It is a party game to noobs that don't know how to play it, but if your really good then its only fair to play Halo. I'm not a moron at video games either, I have been playing games alll my life. I know alot about them, and face it Halo 2 is going to be the game that gets video game competitions nationally known.
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I thought gaming competitions were internationally known with Pacman, the 1980s series of Twingalaixes Videogame Olympics were attended by the millions to watch people play Pacman, Galaga, Centipede, etc. Then again Quake Con has been huge the past, well, always. And thats another international gaming competition that has had a panel on the NYTimes frontpage, and I believe that it was on the front of a time, but I am not sure.
So shit man, were behind if Halo2 is going to take us nationally known. Granted in Korea there is that stadium for CounterStrike and Starcraft... |
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I thought gaming competitions were internationally known with Pacman, the 1980s series of Twingalaixes Videogame Olympics were attended by the millions to watch people play Pacman, Galaga, Centipede, etc. Then again Quake Con has been huge the past, well, always. And thats another international gaming competition that has had a panel on the NYTimes frontpage, and I believe that it was on the front of a time, but I am not sure.
So shit man, were behind if Halo2 is going to take us nationally known. Granted in Korea there is that stadium for CounterStrike and Starcraft...
by the millions? what kind of venues were these? also, that's not a fair analogy, since there were not as many video games to be played, and they played almost every video game at these tournaments. most of twin galaxies events were multi game and multi platform. also, there was no xbox live or game servers or any online play. you had to go to these events to prove yourself. Also those events were only once or twice per year.
this is all just another attempt to justify that guilty gear was the game "people wanted to play" when that is about 99% untrue.
also there is a large difference between being internationally know by people that play video games and read video game related news, and video games being a part of popular culture. how many video games have a deal with USA to broadcast their video game tournaments in 2006? what about $10,000,000 dollars to begin a league?
and to make sure it's clear, I am talking about a single game, and in america.
go ask 100 random people what team fortress classic is, then ask them what halo is.
again, not saying halo is better than any CS or half life,or anything on PC, it's just more mainstream, attendance getting game.
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Personally I dont care weather Halo is played or Guilty Gear - it does not affect me in any way, shape, or form. Mainly since I wont even be there...And yes comparing TG to Halo tourneys is not a fair analogy, thats true but Quake Con is a fair analogy that has yet to be contended.
As for the last Guilty Gear tourney, Shoryuken held East vs West last November. Which was the follow up to a two national sets of tourneys (one US - one Japan) where the victors battled it out. Sadly it took place in California. Other than that I dont really know. Though if you really wanted to stress a 2d fighter, there are national/international tournaments for Street Fighter every year, yet it has never been a tournament at Tigerlan.
Oh and those TG tourneys were held in many places at once. The way they did it that worked the best was that they had convention centers in every major city that they could that had areas for each game (I believe at their height it was some 27 cities each with 100,000+ participants). When the tourney started everyone across the nation started at the same time. It was a hell of a lot of logistics and I can never see it happening like that again, what with the internet and all, but damn that was impressive even in the early 90s. |
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| Fastbilly1, I believe Capt. Kill was referring more to the US scene. Though video gaming events have been held all over the world for some time, real popularity in the US has been non-existent. Say what you will about discrete/isolated events in liberal states. I play Halo, and honestly, I hate it. It's so very addicting though, and so much competition makes it a prime choice for online play. Oh, and as a former Quake fanatic, I will say that Halo is a much more balanced game, easily the most competitive and well balanced online game ever made. I love video games, and have beaten many classics before I could read. (I learned to read when I was 5, f.y.i.) You need to research professional gaming in the US before you bash other posters, however. Halo 2 has created an enormous gaming community, (I'm sure SSBM would hold that crown, but silly nintendo...) and on November 14 MLG Tourneys will begin to be televised on the USA Network, for all those who don't watch VoD on MLGPRO.com. Point: It's really f*cking popular, whether you like it or not. Personally, I would like to see U.N. Squadron, Radiant Silvergun, R-Type 1-3, Contra/Contra III, etc. score contests... Or RPG shuffles, or something of that sort. They aren't multiplayer, but instead of casting away video game noobs who only play Halo, why not try and educate them? Xenogears, Final Fantasy 4,6,7,9, Bahamut Lagoon, Street Fighter Alpha 2, Double Dragon, Turtles in Time, Zelda: A Link to the Past, Super Metroid, Contra III, Tales of Phantasia, Fire Emblem, Ogre Battle, ...how about some ever-popular Unreal? Teach them man, teach them... No one should ever have to live without hearing Kefka's theme, or without seeing Cecil destroy Zeromus... Zohar? I mean c'mon man... This is what it's all about. |
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fastbilly1 wrote:
I thought gaming competitions were internationally known with Pacman, the 1980s series of Twingalaixes Videogame Olympics were attended by the millions to watch people play Pacman, Galaga, Centipede, etc. Then again Quake Con has been huge the past, well, always. And thats another international gaming competition that has had a panel on the NYTimes frontpage, and I believe that it was on the front of a time, but I am not sure.
So shit man, were behind if Halo2 is going to take us nationally known. Granted in Korea there is that stadium for CounterStrike and Starcraft...
Ow owned...
Yea your right about Quake con I forgot about it, but it only happens once a year, and also its not even one solid game event. People can play whatever they want to lan, and Some people go to just show off their computers. I have seen pictures of the stadiums in Korea, but Halo has grown so popular right here in the states. MLG has grown so much in the past 2 years. From players paying to attend to Final Boss signing a million dollar contract just to play at MLG events. You can name off all the tournaments that happen all over the states that doesn't mean they are NATIONAL gaming events. MLG's 2006 season is being aired on USA Nov 14 which is pretty impressive. |
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Hey man we were both right and wrong, lets just leave it at that. (though I would consider Enemy Territory part of Quake - but thats just me)
And muramasa655, Ive been gaming since 86 and my cousin first got his Atari 7800 with choplifter. Ive been in and out of the US tournament scene since the late 80s and finally gave it up before it got glorified with the MLG and CAL. Overall Id say Ive been to atleast 300 tournaments (probably closer to 500), weather I competed or not is a different story. Also Ive known Jason Wendel since UT2k3s demo came out. so I think I know a little bit about US gaming. But my view is that not all the good players are in the US, or even of the age to compete. Thats why I always bring up international competition. I mean the best tournament Predator in AvP is from Germany and doesnt speak English past common curtsies and one of the best Tetris players Ive ever seen was only eight.
I honestly got out of formal competition for the simple reason that you meet a higher concentration of assholes in tournaments than anything else. Be it Halo, CS, Magic the Gathering, ASL, or even Pokemon. When people have their eyes on a prize their entire demeanor will change. Even trsruiner can agree to this, since I know hes seen his share of tournaments (semiformal to pro). Thats just not for me, not any more. Granted Ive played more board games in the past months than video games: Memoir 44 and ASL are the be all end all WW2 wargames, so my opinion may be a bit off. |
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For the record, USA also tried to make a show about Ebaum's World. Either way, it is not important.
As the current president of the AUCGC and leading coordinator for this year's TigerLAN, I would like to say first of all that I do not like Halo. But I will not deny its popularity. Yes, Halo and Halo 2 will be at TigerLAN. It is as certain as there being an Xbox to play on. However, we held a democratic election to see what would be voted in. I want you all to know that when the committee nominated games for the Xbox multiplayer tournament, Halo 2 was instantly put on the roster. In fact, the group had trouble coming up with many more titles to go up against it. However, in the past, there has also been heavy requesting for 2D fighting games. Guilty Gear is a 2D fighter. Therefore, to appease another large demographic of voters, we put this up as a selection. And Guilty Gear won.
I will not flaunt this here because yes, you are right, there was not much information going out about TigerLAN outside of the website. Unfortunately there have been several factors contributing against our semesterly gaming event this fall. For one, a very furious football schedule has limited the weekends for us to work with, mainly because we do not wish to compete against Auburn football, but also because we do not wish to compete with so many home games. Therefore, a weekend was selected that was much earlier in the semester than usual. If we had held TigerLAN in the normal time, polls would not be opened for another week or so. Most of the previous staff are also missing from this TigerLAN, having either graduated, been shipped out for military duty in foreign nations, or, in my case, going through a long recovery period after surgery. If you want something else to scream about, there will be fewer sponsors and fewer prizes at this TigerLAN because we had trouble contacting and confirming them.
Several things have not been brought up yet. For one, Xbox, Gamecube, and PS2 are becoming an old generation. It is very likely there will be limited use of them in the next TigerLAN IF there is a next TigerLAN. In fact, there was some consideration on not having any tournaments in Xbox for this TigerLAN, but due to a lack of real interest in current Xbox 360 games, it was decided we keep it. This was for the benefit of the gamers, not specifically for Halo or anything else. Do not bicker over the subject, it has been decided upon.
And yes, that leads us to the bickering. There is nothing you can say as of now that is going to make Halo 2 a competition. The arguing that is going on this forum has been entirely pointless. Halo 2 is not the tournament. It will not be the tournament. The titles that won the tournaments on a fair vote will stay as the tournaments. This will not be a problem. If you do not like what is played, you do not have to come. Attendance is not mandatory. I would prefer it if you did attend and give me your thoughts and input, but if a single video game title is so absolutely important to your existance as a gamer that it decides whether you come to this event, then I seriously think you should go rethink why you call yourself a gamer when you only play one game. I do hope this is not the case, however, and I will continue to look forward to meeting all of you personally. For the spring, if there is a TigerLAN and if there is an Xbox competition, then I invite you to vote on our forums to decide if Halo 2 will win. But for now you missed your chance. To those of you who are new to this, I apologize on poor timing. To those of you who have come in the past, I would ask why you do not check the forums more often. I am trying to make this as fair as I possibly can, but it takes your participation to get things to work.
As for the arguement about what is going to bring gaming to the mainstream...frankly, I do not care. This is not relevant to the tournament choice, nor is it relevant to TigerLAN. It does not matter who attended what tournament when or whether the local news, national news, or international news picked up and broadcasted the event. That is not relevant to an Xbox tournament held by a small university club in the middle of Alabama. The place to discuss this would be the General Game Discussion board, which is located in our forums. I personally invite each of you to debate your hearts out there as much as you wish. In fact, come to the weekly meetings and play games with us. Become full members and wear your gamer badge with pride. But this is not the place to discuss Halo 2 and whether it had a greater impact on American culture than PacMan. So do not discuss it here. |
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yet we all know that gordon freeman owns masterchief
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